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Product Management Glass Ceiling Cracked

By Scott Sehlhorst, Tyner Blain

In December Pragmatic Marketing released the 2006 product manager survey results. At first glance, there appears to be a huge disparity in compensation between male and female product managers. When we look in more detail, the evidence does not support that conclusion.

History of data

We took a cursory look at the 2000-2005 product management survey data back in October, and The Cranky Product Manager has done a similar analysis, including the 2006 results. Unfortunately, we and she have both jumped to a couple conclusions about salary inequality.

Earlier misinterpretations

Here’s the conclusion we jumped to…

Notice also the unreasonably large gap between blue (female) and maroon (male) overall compensation data.
Tyner Blain, Oct 2006

And today’s interpretation…

On the brink of the year 2007, female product managers in the US and Canada only make 87 cents for every dollar their male counterparts make. For the SAME JOB.
The Cranky Product Manager

Good questions

The Cranky PM asked some good questions about the analysis:

So why is this happening? The Cranky Product Manager wants to find out…. Her top-of-the-head hypotheses include the following:
  • The women respondents skewed younger or less experienced than the male respondents?
  • The women respondents tended to be less technical than the male respondents?
  • The women respondents are in worse-paying industries than the male respondents?
  • Sexism? (which might be increasing over time?)

The first three hypotheses could potentially be ruled out by slicing and dicing the raw survey data.
The Cranky Product Manager

And we respond…

Responses by gender and experience

We started by looking at the experience level of the respondents to the survey (435 of 439 respondents specified either maleness or femaleness). We start by filtering to ignore the four respondents that did not provide gender data.

In the survey, two questions were asked about experience:

  • How many years have you worked in a technology role?
  • How many years have you worked in your current role?

We found that some respondents considered themselves to be non-technical (for example, 15+ years in their current role, 0 years in a technology role). We decided that using the larger of the two responses would give us the best proxy for years of experience.

The following chart shows the number of respondents by answerable experience range in years.

response by experience












What immediately jumps out at us is that there are far more male respondents at the higher levels of experience. We may be inclined to conclude that there are far fewer female product managers at these experience levels, but we can’t. All we can conclude from the survey data is that more males responded to the survey, not that more males are in the role.

Salary by experience

We would expect salary to rise with experience, although it surprisingly plateaus at the 3-5 year mark.

plateau












With just this data - higher salaries at higher experience levels, combined with a higher number of male respondents with more experience - we would expect to see higher salaries for males. And that’s exactly what our cursory examinations showed. What about looking at the “gender gap” when normalized for experience?

Product manager salary by gender and experience

When we split the salary data by experience across gender lines, we see something interesting.

by gender and experience












For product managers with more than five years of experience, the women who responded to the survey are out-earning the men. The only large disparity we see in either direction is for people with less than a year of experience (about 1% of our respondents).

Almost 85% of the respondents have 6 or more years of experience, and for those groups, the women have higher compensation than the men.

Conclusion

The soundbite analysis appears to show women having markedly reduced earnings relative to their male peers in 2006.

Looking at the next level of detail, we see that within ranges of comparably experienced product managers, women earn more than men For the experience ranges that represent the bulk of the respondents, women reported about 5% higher earnings than men as product managers. We also saw that product managers with more experience tended to earn more than their neophyte peers, although experience beyond the five year mark (for our experience proxy) did not seem to have much affect on earnings. These data were obscured by the larger number of male responses within those higher-earner categories.

Although an earnings disparity may exist, the data from this survey does not support the argument.

Statistical analysis

Posted by Mary E. Fitzpatrick at 2007-11-28 12:17 PM
Your headline "PM Glass Ceiling Cracked" is completely unjustfied, and in fact the opposite is demonstrated by the data. Please note the extremely low representation of women, which decreases by 1/2 at each of your last 3 experience levels. The fact that trained and experienced women are leaving the profession is the best indicator that the glass ceiling is alive and well. Further, the sample sizes within each of your experience cells do not allow you to draw any conclusions as to the significance of salary differentials between genders at different experience levels. In other words, with these sample sizes, it is impossible to say whether the differences are due to anything other than chance.

Great Discussion

Posted by Scott Sehlhorst at 2008-03-11 08:19 PM
The fact that a glass ceiling exists at all stinks. I really appreciated the comments that y'all have written already. The data sample referenced in my article makes the disparity seem small. The reason I really like your comments is that they remind us - much more effectively than survey responses - that the problem is inordinately large for anyone who experiences it personally.

I'm glad that both of you took the time to respond, and I hope that people read your comments, and remember that prejudice is a problem. As long as it exists, in any form, people should take action to eliminate it. And I believe that someone, somewhere, will read what you have both written, think twice, and do the right thing.

Thanks again!

Scott

Subtle Prejudices

Posted by Shelby May at 2008-04-23 08:22 PM
I experience the glass ceiling today. I am compensated well, have a BS in EE, and 10 years' experience in marketing and 4 in apps engineering. I believe I was one who answered the survey and I am female.
The glass ceiling is not so muxh active discrimination as it is subtle prejudices. Men are different from women. I am like an American living in Japan, and I do not know the tea ceremony. I am judged on my skills against a male-oriented yardstick all the time. Just the way I talk and relate to others is a handicap; I must talk and behave like a male to make myself fit in. The same is true for some gay men I have known who had to tone down their true manner of speech and gestures at times for a harder business climate. I have to make sure I am concise and to-the-point at all times in speech and writing. I cannot interrupt even though men may interrupt me. To make the point, I am considered non-technical if I ever say the word "thingie" instead of "device" or "unit" even if I know what I am talking about. LOL! I find myself talking like this to my 6 year old son: "Honey, if you integrate that unit onto your tennis shoe, it isn't going to function well with your shoelaces."
I am used to this, but in some companies it is worse than others. And I find that with men from some cultures, it is really bad since they expect a kind of subservience from women. And we do have alot more men from other cultures in American business now (India and Arabia for example) who are raised with a definite viewpoint on women that is not how American men are raised. I now have a boss who is culturally very different. My opinions are not valued, I am not empowered to do anything without his review and approval first, he literally will not hear my requests and observations when he chooses not to, and there is more...others in my work group have commented on my current bosses treatment of me. I do not feel that HR is here to help anyone but the company (to not get sued.)
So to women in the technical industries, my best advice is to not work for a native from a female-repressive culture. I have worked at three major technical companies in my entire career; household names...and in each one I have not yet been promoted beyond individual contributor. It could be "me," and I will account for that - but in each company there are very few women in management positions. You can count them on one hand. The women who are in mangement are the ones who have an executive champion of some kind....and no children or they have grown children. :^)

However, in spite of all of this, I LOVE my work and I am willing to put up with all of this silliness for the opportunity to contribute my best everyday, simply for the love of technical marketing. However, "being more concise" and "not speaking unless spoken to in the conference room" have been on my reviews and stated to me more than once. My only opion is to bail. I am documenting everything, but face it - women are about only 10% in engineering classes, past and present. There's a kind of cultural difference that causes this subtle prejudice that is difficult to break unless the individual can prove their superior excellence without fail. And so this is the stress that women live with in male-dominated fields.

I contend that this informal study could support a hypothesis that the women who ARE in these positions make more because they are forced to be superior in order to compete at all...my 2 cents. I am certain that there are people who would argue with me, and all I can say is that this is MY experience, not a scientific analysis.