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2008 Annual Product Management and Marketing Survey

Each year Pragmatic Marketing conducts a survey of product managers and marketing professionals.

Over 1,100 responded to the survey, which was conducted from November 3 through November 26, 2008 using Vovici’s EFM Feedback.

Note: When making decisions, remember this report describes typical practices, not best practices. For best practices in product management and marketing, attend a Pragmatic Marketing seminar.

Additional analysis is at the end of this summary.


Profile of a product manager

Average age is 37
Responsible for 3 products
89% claim to be "somewhat" or "very" technical
34% are female, 66% are male
95% have completed college and 44% have completed a masters program (see Does a masters degree make a difference?)

"How has your job changed over the last 2 years?"


Organization

The typical product manager reports to a director in the product management department.

  • 45% report to a director
  • 29% report to a vice president
  • 17% report to a manager
  • 9% to CxO

Reporting Department
  • 23% report directly to the CEO or COO
  • 22% are in the Product Management department
  • 19% are in the Marketing department
  • 11% are in Development/Engineering
  • 7% are in Sales
  • 4% are in the Product Marketing department


"If you could say one thing to your company president.."

Over 650 responded to this question! Read some of the highlights.


Impacts on productivity

Product managers receive 50 e-mails a day and send 25.

Product managers spend roughly two days a week in internal meetings (15 meetings/week). But 55% are going to 15 meetings or more each week, and 35% attend 20 or more meetings!

Product managers typically work 50 hours per week.


Ratios within the company

How are product managers allocated relative to other departments?
For each Product Manager, we find:

  • 0.6 product marketing managers
  • 0.75 marketing communications
  • 7.2 salespeople
  • 3.5 sales engineers (pre-sales support)
  • 0.72 development leads
  • 5.5 developers
  • 1.0 product architects and designers

Other ratios

  • 3.6 developers per QA manager
  • 3.6 salespeople per sales engineer


Responsible for product profit & loss


Profit & Loss



Responsible for go-to-market strategies


Go-to-Market



Software Development Methods

Development Methods


Activities (based on the Pragmatic Marketing Framework)

Percentage of respondents indicating they conduct the activity


Activities


Comparison of roles

Percentage of product managers and product marketers indicating they conduct each activity

Product Manager vs Product Marketer


Compensation

Average US product management compensation is $100,341 salary plus $12,467 annual bonus. 79% of product managers get a bonus (multiple responses were permitted):

  • 64% based on company profit
  • 24% based on product revenue
  • 36% based on quarterly objectives (MBOs)

29% say bonus does not motivate at all and 16% say bonus motivates a lot.


Geographical impact on compensation

(US $)

Maximum
Salary

Bonus
Average 
Salary

Bonus
Minimum 
Salary

Bonus







Australia
90,000
20,000
78,571
10,400
65,000
2,000
Canada
145,000
85,000
88,719
14,792
50,000
1,000
Europe
182,000 30,000 90,429
10,704
18,000 2,000
USA 180,000 70,000 100,341 12,467
40,000
1,000



US regional impact on compensation

(US $)

Maximum
Salary

Bonus
Average 
Salary

Bonus
Minimum 
Salary

Bonus







Midwest 170,000 30,000
90,944
10,453
50,000
1,000
Northeast 175,000 55,000
105,178
12,933
40,000
1,000
Pacific 180,000 70,000
107,105
14,026
41,000
1,000
Southeast 150,000 25,000
96,038
10,787
50,000
1,000
South 145,000 27,000
105,789
13,933
58,000
2,000
West
165,000
39,000
94,152
12,833
40,000
2,000

Midwest (IA, IL, IN, KS, MI, MN, MO, ND, NE, OH, SD, WI)
Northeast (CT, DE, MA, ME, NH, NJ, NY, PA, RI, VT)
Pacific (AK. CA, HI, OR, WA)
Southeast (AL, FL, GA, KY, MD, MS, NC, SC, TN, VA, WV)
South (AR, LA, OK, TX)
West (AZ, CO, ID, MT, NM, NV, UT, WY)



Gender comparison in compensation vs. experience

(US $)

Gender Comparison

 


Additional Analysis


More on compensation

A look at Agile product management

Gender bias

Product Manager vs Marketing/Brand Manager

Posted by Matt at 2009-01-06 03:00 PM
Is there any data from the survey that compares salaries between product managers and marketing/brand managers?

comparison

Posted by Steve Johnson at 2009-01-07 12:42 PM
The chart above ("Comparison of roles") shows clearly that the two titles are so intermixed as to be irrelevant to the data. That is, what one company calls product manager another calls a product marketing manager. The survey shows that the average salary for a product manager is 98,751 and the average salary of a product marketing manager is 97,767. Statistically, these are basically the same number, say 1 or 2% different.

Re: Comparison

Posted by Dhawal at 2009-01-15 02:06 PM
I agree with Steve. At the same time big number of large organizations in fortune 100 have a single person acting as product manager as well as product marketing manager. As such the differentiation is highly diluted; what we are looking at in the survey is facts that are equally applicable for PM or PMM.

Percentages for PM responsible for P/L

Posted by Danesh I Mishra at 2009-01-15 02:06 PM
Steve,

Is it possible to get the percentages for PMs responsible for Product P/L?

Thanks,
Dan

Update to Charts

Posted by Graham at 2009-01-16 03:30 PM
We have updated both the Profit & Loss and Go-to-Market charts with actual percentages.

company size?

Posted by Ray Bagley at 2009-01-16 03:40 PM
Steve - this is great. Did you collect data on company size? I'm particularly curious about the average size of software R&D depts to see if the "Ratios within the company" data vary much between small and large software groups. Thanks.

Definition of a product?

Posted by Tina at 2009-02-25 07:06 PM
I'm curious how others define a product. Technically our company has 2 products with related service offerings. However, there are 8 fairly significant modules in my product - some larger/more significant than others. This seems like a lot, along with having responsibility for defining vision and roadmap for my "product." Is it alot or am I just being a whiner? Thanks.

real and right

Posted by Steve Johnson at 2009-02-25 08:21 PM
The right answer is that a product solves a problem for a market segment. The real answer is that a product is anything that sales people sell. The typical number of products is 3 per product manager but some have dozens or hundreds. But surely a single product manager cannot do all the activities of the Pragmatic Marketing framework for a hundred products.

I suspect that most product managers consider a product to be anything they have to write requirements for. Does that help?

Who gets counted as a developer

Posted by Karl Ackerman at 2009-04-09 03:59 PM
In the survey data you indicate a ratio of 1 PM to 5.5 Developers.

Where would you count the User Experiance Designers, Quality Assurance Engineers, and Documentation writers? Are these functions included in the developer count or are they seperate? If seperate what is the ratio of PM to each?

counts for other roles

Posted by Steve Johnson at 2009-04-10 08:48 AM
We counted developers as developers. Our stats show for the other roles:
1 PM to .4 User Experience Designers and
1 PM to 1.5 Quality Assurance Engineers.
We didn't ask about documentation writers.

Remember, this was a product management survey so we focused on common practices for development teams as they relate to product management.

PM/Developer ratio year over year

Posted by Bill L at 2009-05-07 12:46 PM
Steve - in 2005 you showed a PM/Dev ratio of 6.0. In 2006 it was 5.0. In 2007 it was 12.2. This year 5.5. Was 2007 an outlier?

2007 an anomoly?

Posted by Steve Johnson at 2009-05-08 07:18 PM
I think 2007 must have been an outlier but perhaps it's something else. It seems that 2007 was a banner year for outsourcing and 2008 about moving to agile. I think companies have learned that smaller, agile teams deliver better code faster. Regardless, 5-7 people in a dev team per product manager seems about right.

What is the ratio of developers to testers?

Posted by Jeffrey Dern at 2009-10-06 06:02 PM
Hi Steve,

This is helpful information. I'm curious about your definition of QA manager; is your QA manager essentially a development lead counterpart for test?

As a follow up, do you have information regarding the ratio of developers to testers?

Thanks for any guidance you can provide,

-Jeff

common practice isn't best practice

Posted by Steve Johnson at 2009-10-07 09:45 AM
I'm disturbed to see that the ratio of QA to developers is 1:4 (actually 28%). I'm not an expert in development teams but this seems frighteningly low to me. I suspect that those who follow industry best practices would want 1:1. After all, who doesn't want quality?